The Technical Side of things

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This thread started it's life titled 'the great brace height debate'. As I reread it before sending it out into the WWW I decided it was much more than that. I am in the process of making a not so easy transition. One from being a guy who owns,shoots, and kills stuff with a bow. To being a guy who knows, understands, and is able to make good use of the variables in a bow set up. I know that there are more than a couple TOFers who fit in the latter category. With desert archery season coming to a close last Sunday, its time to reflect on the season. The successes, the almosts and the "are you frickin kidding me" moments. We all strive to be the best that we can be in our own form every time we leave the driveway to pursue those mystical mammals with our bow. In my reflection I have found that my personal short coming is in the technical side of things. When it comes to my optics I can debate till I'm out of breath. Objective lens size, chromatic abberation, light gathering, lense material, housing material.....etc. With the things that go bang; its the same. Velocity,B.C., burn rate, rate of twist, sectional density, it goes on and on. However, when it comes to my bow; which I use more than the ones that go bang. The conversation would be short. It might even begin with how much it weighed while I was carrying it and end with how loud it was or wasn't when I shot it. So, in short (too late for that). I'm reaching out to the aforementioned group of bowhunters who do know how to bend the rules and squeeze the last FPS out of your bow. Let's start off this off season with some conversation about the technical side. So as it began: Does brace height make a significant difference in forgiveness with the hunting bows of today?
 

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Keep it simple.... In over 30 years I've never had anyone tune my bows. The more you're involved with your bow, the more you'll know what's going on and how to deal with it. Brace height is a small factor on how a bow will shoot. Generally the larger brace height is more forgiving and slower. For hunting, I go big... Ed F
 

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Dam D. Why didn't you ask me? I know a thing or 2 about bows.....

1. Pointy end goes towards the target
2. Never dry fire
3. Keep your arm out of the way or it reaaaaly hurts
4.

Yeah that's about the extent of my knowledge ;)

Hope that helps!
 

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Despite having been a bow hunter for almost 30 years, I no relatively nothing about bows. I utilize my local pro shop for their knowledge. It seems the more I tinker with my bow, the more I compound my problem. I just don't possess the desire to do it all myself.
 

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Arrowslinger, that is exactly what I have been afraid of.I have a 'if it can be done then I can do it' mentality. But I agree with you. That is exactly what prompted this thread. I have really been at a loss to find much good info about the technical side of things. I'm making plans to enroll in the archery shooters school at PSE headquarters. 2 days of professional shooting instruction and 1 day of technical instruction. It's meant as a training class for the guys who work at the pro shop. It's an hour drive to the closest pro shop, so that prohibits often visits.
 

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D12 - I honestly don't think there is a "right" answer to your question. Heck, there is probably not a "right" answer to most technical archery questions. There are too many variables that are dependent on the shooter and thus those cannot remain constant in any equation which will give you mix results. You won't find archers all agreeing on a topic about the technical side of things.

Just like with optics... you really have to shoot lots of bows, with lots of stabs, with your sight of choice or different sights, with different quivers. Everything comes into play as it all starts with your body form and hand. Playing around with bows and set ups is the best way to learn the ends and outs of the "technical" aspects of archery when they are specific to you.
 

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It's not that hard to do it yourself. You will need a bow press. I sill use a portable bow press to change strings/cables and install a peep sight. I wish I had a better one, but it works.

Have fun with the shooting instruction and technical training. Sounds great.
 

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Hope its not too late to break bad habits. Anyone encountered any good info for the fundamentals of do's and dont's. My question about brace height was of random origin. Just trying to drum up some talk about the different variables to a bow set up. Thanks for the input guys.
 

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Technically I dont know much, can't shoot worth a damn either. I just bust my ass scouting and hunting and get enough opportunities that eventually it works out.
 

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Dang Doug..........Just think if you could shoot............ :smiley-ugly-lol-bashing-sign:
 

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ilovesprig said:
Dang Doug..........Just think if you could shoot............ :smiley-ugly-lol-bashing-sign:
Ha! I've said that my whole life. The downside would be that I wouldn't get to spend as much time in the field, which, as I get older is something I cherish more. Its not all about the kill!
 

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goindeep said:
Dang Doug..........Just think if you could shoot............ :smiley-ugly-lol-bashing-sign:
Ha! I've said that my whole life. The downside would be that I wouldn't get to spend as much time in the field, which, as I get older is something I cherish more. Its not all about the kill!
Amen...
 

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There is a guy on AT that seems to really know his stuff. nuts&bolts. www.nutsandboltsarchery.com

He produced a dvd and for the "technical" stuff he does a decent job explaining things.
 

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Very cool. I will check it out tomorrow while everybody else is staring at the TV. I guess there's a big game or something. I haven't seen a TV on a Sunday since Sept. Thank you very much.
 

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Good luck chasing the knowledge. I started out opposite of many in that my local bow shops weren't technical specialists but purveyors of the latest snake oil. Growing up I shot fingers off a flipper with my compounds, killed my first buck with a bow at 12 and probably "over thunk" it until a few years ago when I gave up compounds.

Biggest lesson I found to cure bow issues was leave the low weight arrows to the target guys. A heavier arrow will always tune better...

Remember that the attachment pulling the string is usually to blame for tuning issues!

Enjoy!
 

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Please don't go talk to Alen( nutsnbolts) that will just get you WAY MORE confused!!! It's quit simple...you will need a bow press and most likely a draw board.....feel free to shoot my a PM if you like and we can talk....I'm no expert but I can find my way around a bow or two be glad to help if I can
 
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