The current world population of this New World species almost certainly exceeds five million birds. Most populations of this adaptable species appear to be thriving.
They (condors) frickin' eat anything. Apparently they are attracted to shiny objects, cause they keep eating METAL!!! Hello?
I did some research on these damn birds (reading the condor lovers own info) and they are not well adjusted to modern times. To say these birds are dieing because of hunters is like saying a drug addict isnt responsible for taking drugs. The condor recovery people have "CLEAN UP DAYS" in the LPNF (Los Padres National Forest) in order to collect small bits of metal so the stupid condors don't end up eating it. I am serious, this info is on the web. But all we hear about is the EVIL hunter's LEAD and how dangerous lead bullets are. This is HYPE!!! 100%
The Bottom Line:
These birds have an unnatural genetic drive to consume METAL. Period! How then is anyone responsible for their actions, but them alone?
Eating trash & "Clean up days" links:
...Everything from metal springs and glass fragments to bits of electrical wiring and cloth has been found in the crops and gizzards of the deceased chicks, as well as in condor nests. The body of one nestling contained a veritable trash pile: 30 metal items, 54 glass, 28 pieces of plastic and 2 miscellaneous items—a total of 200.5 grams of junk. Another contained 193.5 grams, and several others held 60 grams or more...
a report issued by the
California Fish & Game Commission on blood lead levels in California
condors was inconclusive and supported the National Shooting Sports
Foundation's contention that there is no scientific basis for the
state's ban on traditional ammunition in condor regions. The department
and commission noted that the "sources of lead in sampled condors are
unknown, relationship of sampled condors to hunting activity are
unknown, and . . . the condor feeding habits for this period . . . are
Here's what is known: Condors feed on small pieces of garbage called
micro-trash. Micro-trash includes batteries, plastics and painted-fence
pieces. Certainly, a much more reasonable explanation for why some
condors have elevated blood lead levels is that they are feeding on
these lead-based products comprising micro-trash. Of course, this
likelihood is also overlooked by the Audubon Society.
Many condors undoubtedly perish at such wind farms, although official reports attribute losses to other causes. Remember, great financial investments often warrant great cover-ups by those who stand to lose money.
The government began releasing condors in 1992, and there are now about 130 condors in the wild, 68 of them in California. Of 127 condors released in California from 1992 through 2006, 46 birds (36 percent) died or disappeared and are presumed dead. Scientists say poisoning from scavenging carcasses tainted by lead ammunition is likely responsible for many of the deaths”.
These figures were published three years ago when wildlife advocates filed suit to replace toxic lead bullets with safer alternatives. Now 3 years later, despite the ban on lead bullets, the number of number of missing and presumed dead Condors is even higher.
fish dog said:BTW - Steve and John. Since you're both on the F&G..or I guess it would now be F&W commission of your respective counties, maybe you know someone to pass this info on to where it will do some good?