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I've got a .54 cal Hawken style traditional percussion cap ML that I bought from Cableas 15+ years ago. It's branded Cabelas but made by someone else, maybe Pedrsoli.? It's been a fun gun. I've killed a couple hogs with it and it's really accurate. I pulled it out of the safe today for the first time in many years. It had some rust so I was going to clean it. I put the wrench on the nipple and tried to loosen it. Without even struggling, the nipple sheared off in the threads. Crap. I called Cabelas and they no longer offer parts for the model. I'd like to drill out the old nipple and chase the threads clean with a tap, but I dont know the thread pitch and I don't even know if I can find a new nipple. Does anyone know if those things are standard sized? Think one from TC or something might fit? Any suggestions? I'd hate to think the thing is trash.
 

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It really has no collector value, so that would be fine. I would just like it operational again. You mean a Thompson Center Hawken nipple? Know where I could buy just the nipple? As long as the diameter is the same or bigger I could probably get it to work, but what if it's smaller?
 

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Your first mistake was putting a wrench on the nipple.... ouch! You should be embarrased to say that your gun has a nipple. Sorry bud, I have no free advice for you... Ed F
 

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PH thanks dude, you are the man! I read some of the product reviews and a bunch of folks said they used that nipple as a replacement for their Cabelas Hawkens. Sure wish it would say that in the product description. Would have saved me a lot of time. Or if the folks at cabelas would have known when I called. Got a couple on order. Now it's just a matter of getting the old one out without too much damage. I hope the interior of the breech plug isn't too corroded. Just in case, know where I can get one of those too?
 

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You should be able to get it out with a small eazy out.
 

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I second the easy out screw remover.....just remember every thing goes in reverse quick and fast and should save the threads.
 

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I don't know. I guess there is no harm in trying, but its rusted in pretty good. I don't see an extractor working. The good news is that Green Mountain sells complete barrelled sets so if I have to go that route at least its still workable..
 

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SD, I've never needed to take the breech plug out. For cleaning, I always take the nipple out, use really hot water, and scrub the inside barrel out. Then light oil. If it doesn't want to come out, just leave it in.

I haven't shot mine in years and I always leave the nipple out for storing.
 

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Yeah, I would do the same for cleaning. Hot, soapy water in the bathtub. Then I would just loosely screw in the nipple because I was afraid id lose it. I just fear the whole fire channel is rusted and clogged. I've never needed to remove the breech plug either, but never had it rust up like this before either.
 

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Well that didn't work out so well. Tried an extractor. No dice. Had to use a little 1/8" one in order to not go into the female threads on the breech. Got a couple turns into it and it just wouldn't budge. Like a gorilla, I kept turning and broke the extractor off. And it's too hard to drill into to get it out. Dangit!

I think I'm just gonna bite the bullet and buy a new barrell set. Now, can anyone convince me to stick with a .54 cal? I used to shoot Maxiballs out of it and had it set up for a CO hunt many years ago where you can't use sabots. Now I'd like to use it on a pig again maybe, and with the lead ban, I'm stuck with Barnes copper. They are much easier to find in .50 cal. Also, I can't find a barrell that is 1 in 28" twist in .54. The .54 cal bbls are all 1 in 70" for round balls, and the lead free bullets are all sabots. Just seems like the .50's are more universal. Make sense? Or stick with .54?
 

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Hang it over the mantle with a flag out of the barrel that says bang or a flower. Buy yourself an inline. Unless your really into the Rendevous stuff and have already invested in a Trapper outfit, your life will be much easier with an inline.
 

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My bro has one I can borrow whenever. To me an inline is not a primitive weapon. I like the nostalgia of a trad ml. And my buckskin banana hammock needs to be worn.
 

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I don't know. I guess there is no harm in trying, but its rusted in pretty good. I don't see an extractor working. The good news is that Green Mountain sells complete barrelled sets so if I have to go that route at least its still workable..

Put some KROIL on it. That stuff works miracles!
 

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Hope you get your's fixed, but just FYI, I've blackpowder hunted for almost 30 years - started with a CVA .45 cal Kentucky long rifle that I put together as a kit, it was an X-mas present from my older brother when I was about 14. A couple years ago I graduated to a TC ProHunter.

I ALLLLWAAAAYS remove the nipples till I'm ready to use the guns again.

sorry, but after proof reading that I just had to chuckle. :smiley-wnk-yellow:
 
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