DFG Q&A on LEAD BAN

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January 9, 2008

New Regulations Will Prohibit Use of Lead Projectiles for Big Game and Nongame Hunting in the Range of the California Condor

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/

After nearly a full year of public testimony, discussion, and environmental analyses, the Fish and Game Commission in December 2007 adopted regulations (Section 353, Title 14, CCR) that will prohibit the use of projectiles (bullets) containing lead for hunting deer, bear, wild pig, elk, and pronghorn antelope in areas designated as California condor range. Additionally, the regulations (Section 475, Title 14, CCR) will also prohibit use of lead in the same areas when hunting coyote, ground squirrels, and other nongame wildlife.

When:

The effective date for the new regulations will be July 1, 2008. It will be illegal to hunt the above species with lead projectiles beginning July 1.


What are the lead projectiles that are prohibited?

The Commission has defined projectiles so that the prohibited bullets and other projectiles can be understood. A projectile is defined as any bullet, ball, sabot, slug, buckshot or other device which is expelled from a firearm through a barrel by force.

Additionally, for hunting nongame, projectiles include shot and pellets; lead in these projectiles is prohibited as well.

It will be illegal to use any projectile that contains more than 1 percent lead for hunting big game or nongame within the affected area. This includes centerfire as well as black-powder/muzzle-loader, and rimfire projectiles.

Lead Content in Projectiles

The Commission and Department are aware that trace levels of lead likely exist in any projectile as a result of the manufacturing process. Additionally, interpretation of the statute indicates the intent is to preclude risk to the condor from lead fragmentation. Therefore, the Commission has established a maximum amount of lead content in projectiles to be 1.0 percent by weight. In reality, it is understood that non-lead identified projectiles have far less than 1 percent lead content. The Commission and Department will be working on a certification process, to be completed before summer 2008, to help hunters identify projectiles that will be legal.




Where

The geographic area where lead is prohibited is exactly the same area described in the recently enacted AB 821- Ridley-Tree Condor Preservation Act (Nava) and entered into the Fish and Game Code as section 3004.5. To assist hunters in understanding and visualizing affected areas, the lead prohibition area is also know as deer hunt zones D7, D8, D9, D10, D11, D13, and most (but not all) of the South A zone. (The Department will identify specific hunts affected in a future update.)

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What are the regulations and options for hunting with .22 caliber or smaller rimfire firearms?

Rimfire firearms are not legal in California for hunting big game or for depredation killing of big game animals (these are primarily deer and wild pig in condor range).

Rimfire firearms are legal for nongame animals (coyotes and ground squirrels primarily) and for sport hunting of small game mammals [hares (jackrabbits), cottontail, and tree squirrel]. However, for nongame animals the Commission has prohibited use of lead projectiles in .22 rimfire or smaller firearms as part of this regulation change in condor range.

The Commission has not addressed the issue of hunting small game mammals because that section of the regulations was not opened for potential change. Therefore, hunters can legally hunt jackrabbit, cottontail, and tree squirrel using lead projectiles, but not ground squirrels in the same area. Part of the reasoning for this is that unlike nongame animals that are hunted and usually left in the field, game species must be retrieved and not wasted.

The Department and Commission are of the understanding that non-lead projectiles for rimfire are not readily available or manufactured at this time and that the only non-lead rimfire is in .22 caliber magnum, and not for the very popular .22 short, long, or long rifle.


Where can I find a list of known legal projectiles for hunting?

The Department and Commission will be initiating a process such that the Commission can certify projectiles as meeting the non-lead threshold for purposes of these regulations. This public review process will occur between February and June 2008 and should result in a listing of authorized projectiles acceptable for hunting within the affected area. Currently, the Department recommends visiting this webpage: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/con...ead-ammo-ca.pdf although the subject projectiles have not been certified for the July 1 requirement (that is, all would be considered legal until July 1, 2008 and possibly thereafter).

If I purchase ammunition listed at that website, what assurance do I have that it will be legal after July 2008?

There are no assurances until the certification process is completed in Spring 2008. We recommend hunters be mindful of this timeframe.

What are the regulations for possessing lead projectiles within the affected area?

The Commission prohibited the possession of lead projectiles and a firearm capable of firing such projectiles, while big game or nongame hunting within the specified range. Otherwise, lead projectiles may be possessed.

The Departments Law Enforcement Division will be interpreting and enforcing these regulations. If you have a scenario where you are not sure of legality, it is recommended that you contact a local DFG warden to seek guidance.


What about target shooting, plinking, or firearms for personal protection?

The Commission does not regulate these activities. Use of lead projectiles is legal unless another government entity has determined otherwise for lands they administer. The regulations prohibiting lead only relate to possession while engaged in specified hunting activities.

Are pellet rifles included in the non-lead ammunition ban?

Pellet rifles are not considered a firearm. Consequently, neither pellet rifles nor their projectiles would be included in the ban.


I shoot a 338 Lapua and cannot find any listings at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/con...ead-ammo-ca.pdf, which means I will have to buy custom ammunition or reload them myself. How will the warden in the field determine that my ammunition is legal?

A training program will be implemented to familiarize field wardens with legal projectiles. It is possible that a warden may seize a cartridge to inspect the bullet under controlled conditions at a later time.

How will wardens check muzzle-loading rifles?

While hunting, any projectile in your possession may be inspected by wardens. On rare instances, a warden may seize the weapon for removal of the projectile under controlled conditions or fire the weapon into a medium to retrieve the projectile.


Information for Landowners, Ranchers, Farmers


How does this affect private lands and landowners in this area?

Landowners who are hunting big game or nongame species, or anyone authorized to hunt these species on private land, must also comply with the new regulation. The regulation applies to all public and private lands where hunting occurs.

How does this affect depredation permits to take offending wildlife?

The Department issues depredation permits for a variety of species for damage to crops and property. Depredation permit holders will also be required to use non-lead projectiles within the specified condor range.

A friend asks me to shoot ground squirrels on his property to reduce crop damage and minimize injuries to his livestock. Will the new ammunition requirements apply to this activity?

Yes.

How about the non-lead ammunition coupon program described in AB 821?

There is no funding to implement the coupon program. The program will not be implemented without funding.
 

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Non-Lead Ammunition Legal For Hunting in California

Non-Lead Rifle Ammunition

Brand Name - Caliber - Grain Weight - Bullet Style
Federal Premium Vital Shok .243 Winchester 85 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.25-06 Remington 100 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.270 Winchester 130 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.270 Win. Short Magnum 130 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
7mm Remington 160 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
7mm Win. Short 160 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.308 Winchester 150 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.308 Winchester 165 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 165 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 180 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.300 Winchester Mag. 165 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.300 Winchester Mag. 180 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.300 Win. Short Magnum 165 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.300 Win. Short Magnum 180 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.300 H&H Magnum 180 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.300 Rem. Ultra Mag 180 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.300 Weatherby Mag. 180 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.338 Federal 185 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.338 Winchester 225 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.375 H&H Magnum 300 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.416 Remington Mag. 400 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.416 Rigby 400 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
.458 Winchester Mag. 500 Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet
Black Hills Gold .25-06 Remington 115 Barnes X-Bullet
.270 Winchester 130 Barnes X-Bullet
7mm Remington 140 Barnes X-Bullet
.308 Winchester 168 Barnes X-Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 180 Barnes X-Bullet
.300 Winchester 180 Barnes X-Bullet
Weatherby Premium .240 Weatherby Magnum 90 Barnes X-Bullet
.257 Weatherby Magnum 115 Barnes X-Bullet
.270 Weatherby Magnum 140 Barnes X-Bullet
7mm Weatherby 150 Barnes X-Bullet
.300 Weatherby Magnum 180 Barnes X-Bullet
.30-375 Weatherby 180 Barnes X-Bullet
.340 Weatherby Magnum 225 Barnes X-Bullet
.338-378 Weatherby. 225 Barnes X-Bullet
.378 Weatherby Magnum 270 Barnes X-Bullet
.416 Weatherby Magnum 350 Barnes X-Bullet
.460 Weatherby Magnum 450 Barnes X-Bullet
PMC Gold Line .22-250 Remington 50 Barnes XLC Bullet
.223 Remington 53 Barnes XLC Bullet
.243 Winchester 85 Barnes XLC Bullet
.25-06 Remington 100 Barnes XLC Bullet
.270 Winchester 130 Barnes XLC Bullet
.270 Winchester 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Remington 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Remington 160 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.308 Winchester 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.308 Winchester 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-30 Winchester 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338 Winchester 225 Barnes XLC Bullet
.375 H&H Magnum 270 Barnes XLC Bullet
.375 H&H Magnum 300 Barnes XLC Bullet
Conley Precision Cartridge .243 Winchester 85 Barnes XLC Bullet
6mm Remington 85 Barnes XLC Bullet
.25-06 Remington 100 Barnes XLC Bullet
.260 Remington 120 Barnes XLC Bullet
.260 Remington 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
.264 Winchester 120 Barnes XLC Bullet
.264 Winchester 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
.270 Winchester 130 Barnes XLC Bullet
.270 Weatherby Magnum 130 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm x 57 Mauser 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm x 57 Mauser 160 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm-08 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm-08 160 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Remington 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Remington 160 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Remington Ultra 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Remington Ultra 160 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Weatherby 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm Weatherby 160 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm STW 140 Barnes XLC Bullet
7mm STW 160 Barnes XLC Bullet
.308 Winchester 130 Barnes XLC Bullet
.308 Winchester 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.308 Winchester 165 Barnes XLC Bullet
.308 Winchester 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.308 Winchester 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 130 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 165 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-06 Springfield 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
30-06 Springfield 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester 165 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester Short 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester Short 165 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester Short 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Winchester Short 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Weatherby Magnum 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Weatherby Magnum 165 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Weatherby Magnum 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Weatherby Magnum 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-378 Weatherby 165 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-378 Weatherby 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.30-378 Weatherby 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Remington Ultra Mag. 150 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Remington Ultra Mag. 165 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Remington Ultra Mag. 168 Barnes XLC Bullet
.300 Remington Ultra Mag. 180 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338 Winchester Magnum 185 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338 Winchester Magnum 210 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338 Winchester Magnum 225 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338 Remington Ultra Mag 185 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338 Remington Ultra Mag 210 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338 Remington Ultra Mag 225 Barnes XLC Bullet
.340 Weatherby Magnum 185 Barnes XLC Bullet
.340 Weatherby Magnum 210 Barnes XLC Bullet
.340 Weatherby Magnum 225 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338-378 Weatherby 185 Barnes XLC Bullet
.338-378 Weatherby 225 Barnes XLC Bullet
.375 H&H Magnum 235 Barnes XLC Bullet
.375 Weatherby Magnum 235 Barnes XLC Bullet
.378 Weatherby Magnum 235 Barnes XLC Bullet
.416 Rigby 400 Barnes XLC Bullet

NON-LEAD SHOTGUN AMMUNITION
Brand Name - Gauge- Shell Length - Pellet Size Style
Hevi-Shot 12 2 ' Hevi Shot Sabot Slugs
12 2 ' Hevi Shot Foster Slugs
12 2 ' 00 Hevi Shot Buckshot
12 3 00 Hevi Shot Buckshot
Federal Premium 12 2 Barnes Sabot Slug
12 3 Barnes Sabot Slug
20 2 Barnes Sabot Slug
20 3 Barnes Sabot Slug
Remington Premier 12 3 Copper Solid Sabot Slug
12 2 Copper Solid Sabot Slug
20 2 Copper Solid Sabot Slug
12 2 00 Hevi Shot Buckshot
Bismuth Cartridge 12 2 00 Bismuth Buckshot

NON-LEAD MUZZLELOADER AMMUNITION
Brand Name - Caliber - Grain Weight - Bullet Style
Barnes MZ Sabots .45 195 Expander MZ
.50 245 Spitfire BT
.50 250 Expander MZ
.50 250 Tipped MZ
.50 285 Spitfire BT
.50 290 Tipped MZ
.50 300 Expander MZ
.54 275 Expander MZ
.54 325 Expander MZ
Knight Red Hots .45 150 Barnes Bullet
.45 175 Barnes Bullet
.50 220 Barnes Bullet
.50 250 Barnes Bullet
.50 300 Barnes Bullet
.52 275 Barnes Bullet
.52 350 Barnes Bullet
.52 375 Barnes Bullet
.54 325 Barnes Bullet

NON-LEAD PISTOL AMMUNITION
Brand Name - Caliber - Grain Weight - Bullet Style
Federal Premium .357 Magnum 140 Barnes Expander
.41 Rem. Magnum 180 Barnes Expander
.44 Rem. Magnum 225 Barnes Expander
.454 Casull 250 Barnes Expander
.480 Ruger 275 Barnes Expander
.500 S&W 275 Barnes Expander
Conley Precision Cartridge .45 Colt 250 Barnes X-Bullet
.454 Casull 250 Barnes X-Bullet
.445 SuperMag. 250 Barnes X-Bullet
.44 Rem. Mag. 220 Barnes X-Bullet
.44 Rem. Mag. 225 Barnes X-Bullet

NON-LEAD BULLETS FOR RELOADING
Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet Solid copper heat-treated bullet with 3 rings.
Available calibers: .22, 6mm, .25, 6.5mm, 6.8mm, .270, 7mm, .30, 8mm, .338, .358, 9.3mm, .375, .416, .458
Barnes XLC Bullet Solid copper heat-treated bullet with solid dry film lubricant.
Available calibers: .22, .25, .270, .30, .338, .375, .470 Nitro, 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm, 8mm, .500 Nitro, .577 Nitro
Barnes X-Bullet Solid copper heat-treated bullet.
Available calibers: .22, .25, .30, .338, .35, .375, .416, .45/70, 6mm, 7mm, .30/30, 9.3mm, .405 Winchester, .404
Jeff Exp 425, .458, .50
Barnes Solid Bullet Solid copper/zinc alloy bullet.
Available calibers: .22, 6mm, .25, 7mm, .30, .338, 9.3mm, .375, .416, .458, .50 BMG LRS, .577 Nitro, .600
Nitro
XPB Pistol Bullet Solid copper pistol bullet.
Available calibers: 9mm, .40 S&W, .44 Cal, .45 Long Colt, .45 ACP, .454 Cassull, .460 S&W, .480 Ruger/.475
Linebaugh, .50 S&W

Bismuth shot, Hevi-shot, and Steel shot for reloading is available at retailers, including Ballistic Products Inc.,
Precision Reloading, and Bucks Run Sports.
Check with your favorite reloading supplier for these products.
 

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The Commission has not addressed the issue of hunting small game mammals because that section of the regulations was not opened for potential change. Therefore, hunters can legally hunt jackrabbit, cottontail, and tree squirrel using lead projectiles, but not ground squirrels in the same area. Part of the reasoning for this is that unlike nongame animals that are hunted and usually left in the field, game species must be retrieved and not wasted.

If this is their logic for allowing lead ammo for small game animals, tell me what is the logic for prohibiting lead when hunting big game animals?

What will it take to get competent people appointed to the Fish & Game Commission?
 

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What will it take to get competent people appointed to the Fish & Game Commission?



Ever see the movie "Scent of a Woman"??




--- That seems to be the only viable answer I can come up with .......... No CA Govt. Apointee will hever have enoufgh common sence to see through this BS with-out standing up and taking a hit of what is right.



....... Anyone have any insite as to show into whitch political party Barnes's campain contributions are being directed btw ??
 

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Called Barnes bullets and they sent me a free catalog & dvd of how their bullets work... pretty cool. Not sure of the cost, I was just looking at the difference between lead & copper. The varmit gernades for the 223 were awesome. Nothing for a .17 they said cci (brain fart), was working on the smaller calibers. This will be my first real year of hunting deer, so I am learning from you guys... in the past it has been an excuse to scout for birds. (hiking with a gun?)
 

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What about target shooting, plinking, or firearms for personal protection?

The Commission does not regulate these activities. Use of lead projectiles is legal unless another government entity has determined otherwise for lands they administer. The regulations prohibiting lead only relate to possession while engaged in specified hunting activities.

Thats a shock.
 

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What about target shooting, plinking, or firearms for personal protection?

The Commission does not regulate these activities. Use of lead projectiles is legal unless another government entity has determined otherwise for lands they administer. The regulations prohibiting lead only relate to possession while engaged in specified hunting activities.

Thats a shock.



So how long do you think that will last? I say 2 maybe 3 years.
 
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