Booze prohibition in AK

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So I've been wiped out with the flu for the last few days and have been putting in lots of couch time. Got a couple new favorite TV shows. Border Wars and Alaska State Troopers. On the Troopers show they are constantly up against trouble from drunk native Alaskans. In many of the villages booze is illegal and they prosecute for possession. My question is how is that constitutional? I thought Prohibition was abolished back in the 20's. What gives?
 

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Nate, I did some work up there for about 3 months, years ago... on frt greeley military site......let me tell you this alchol and the natives dont mix ...at ...ALL!!!!...you think drunkstalker is a mess when he is drunk...multiply that by a 1000 and there you go I dont know why.....anyone I met(the natives) would either love the stuff or be totally against it cause it got them in trouble....
 

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I used to work on a local "indian" reservation as security for their casino and surrounding reservation..................

Now I know where the term "savage" comes from........

I firmly support the "alcohal and indians don't mix" statement.....with VIGOR!!

I think it's the "res" that bans it in AK. Not a USA law but the sovern nation law.
 

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Ok, well the show said the various villages outlawed it. Then it showed the State Troopers enforcing the rule. So that seems like a contradiction. I could understand if it were a tribal rule, but then how could state police enforce it?
 

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For a period of time they banned boooooze in the city of Folsom a few years back. It seemed 3 yahoos from southern Kali
got a little drunk and the local PD stepped in and had to crack down.

Bunch of drunks.
 

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QUOTE (SDHNTR @ Nov 28 2010, 06:46 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=297145
Ok, well the show said the various villages outlawed it. Then it showed the State Troopers enforcing the rule. So that seems like a contradiction. I could understand if it were a tribal rule, but then how could state police enforce it?



If the state troopers are the law enforcement agency for the tribal lands, they can enforce what ever local laws they have. Just like when a city contracts a county sheriff for police services, the county sheriff can enforce the city's municipal codes, along with state laws.
Prohibition was a federal law that was repealed. It's my understanding that states, counties, or cities can outlaw sales of alcoholic beverages, just like they can restrict other things that are not against federal law. Some bible belt states have "dry counties" where no alcoholic beverages are sold, or have very severe restrictions on sales of alcohol.
 

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QUOTE (Bishop @ Nov 28 2010, 07:08 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=297151
QUOTE (SDHNTR @ Nov 28 2010, 06:46 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=297145
Ok, well the show said the various villages outlawed it. Then it showed the State Troopers enforcing the rule. So that seems like a contradiction. I could understand if it were a tribal rule, but then how could state police enforce it?



If the state troopers are the law enforcement agency for the tribal lands, they can enforce what ever local laws they have. Just like when a city contracts a county sheriff for police services, the county sheriff can enforce the city's municipal codes, along with state laws.
Prohibition was a federal law that was repealed. It's my understanding that states, counties, or cities can outlaw sales of alcoholic beverages, just like they can restrict other things that are not against federal law. Some bible belt states have "dry counties" where no alcoholic beverages are sold, or have very severe restrictions on sales of alcohol.


They (we - states had to ratify) actually amended the US Constitution to ban alcohol consumption, via the 18th Amendment in 1920. We later repealed the 18th with the 21st Amendment in 1933. The 21st granted absolute authority to the states who delegated it to counties and municipalities. Hey ... its a "living document" :)
 

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Well I know there are places where it is illegal to sell booze, just didn't know there were places in the USA where you couldn't possess it.
 

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The episode is on right now. The city is Bethel AK. They said its illegal to sell but no illegal to have alcohol within the city.

and yes alcohol and natives (me being one of them) don't mix!!
 

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Road trip to Folsum!!!! I know a good tour guide that will drive us all over the place, hit every good bar, and get us back to a free place to stay.
 

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We stayed a week in a dry town in Larsen Bay, Kodiak Island. You couldnt buy any alcohol but its all OK as long as you bring your own....on a float plane.....

I met an Indian (I mean a Native American) in college in a couple of rehab/sociology classes. He told me something that has stuck in my brain forever....Indians dont drink to get drunk, Indians drink to hallucinate....

:beer-toast:
 

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And for the record we bought booze and got hammered in Anchorage, Kodiak, Soldotna, and Homer.....
 

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I spent 14 days on kake island and they only sell alcohol one day a month at the store. Our guides were permanently drunk natives with guns. If it wasn't for our friend who lived there 25 years and was a snow bird we met in az I think they would have killed us and eaten us.
 

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In college I lost a friend because her native american boyfriend got drunk and decided to shoot her, he held her hostage for a little while first then shot her in the head. He was from a tribe in Bishop, ca. Could not handle city life or alcohol. I got called to testify at the trial, in the penalty phase. Told them he was the nicest guy I ever met until he had a drink.
 

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Some ethnic groups are genetically predisposed to have trouble metabolizing alcohol. A little bit goes a long way. Indians are one of those groups. Some asians as well.

Given what alcohol does to a lot of people who can metabolize the stuff, there are worse conditions to have.
 

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QUOTE
I met an Indian (I mean a Native American) in college in a couple of rehab/sociology classes. He told me something that has stuck in my brain forever....Indians dont drink to get drunk, Indians drink to hallucinate....

:beer-toast:


+1 on that bpnclark! Just look how old Ira Hayes ended up.
 
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