Big Game Share Hunts- Steals from the Public

Roux Meraux

New Member
A couple of years ago when DFG started the Share hunts as a fund raiser, I was happy to put in for it. But last year, I called DFG to ask where the extra tags came from. The tags are not extra. DFG takes away from yearly "Public" quota and assigns them to the fund raiser. A typical California type approach. You might say not a big deal where A-Zone deer tags are 65K and are never filled. What about elk? For example, Northwestern elk hunt 483 either sex in 2015 was a quota of 30. In 2016 DFG divided that zone into two hunts 483 either sex quota 3 and 355 bull quota 15. What happened to the other 12 tags. Those tags went to the fund raiser. 10 bull, 20 anterless, and 3 jr total Share tags in 2015.

Now in 2019 there are 21 bull, 45 antlerless, and 6 jr hunts in the Share program. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to identify where those tags come from. They keep taking from the public and selling the tags to Share.

I am sure others have noticed this, not sure what can be done. But I will not put in for any Share Hunts ever again. They are selling what should have been public anyway.

Thanks for reading.
Roux Meraux
 

Roux Meraux

New Member
Think about it. The biologist decides how many elk can be taken for the year. The elk taken would not negatively affect the herd population. the idea is a healthy sustainable herd. This year 2019 there are 311 tags for the public and 72 offered in the Share program for a total of 383 available tags. Imagine that... DFG is taking nearly 20% of the public tags for use in THEIR fund raising program. One out of every five elk go toward the Share program. What a crock!!!
 

2rocky

Well-Known Member
WELL....

The SHARE program takes PRIVATE land and makes it available to the PUBLIC to have a chance to hunt. You aren't factoring in the Landowner tags that are available for the landowner to sell at the Market value. In fact there are more elk tags available to the public now than 10 years ago.

Unless you would rather have the landowner sell those tags to the highest bidder?

What have you done lately to help the tag situation?
 

Roux Meraux

New Member
There were 334 elk tags in 2015 up for public draw. In 2019 there are 311 elk tags for public draw. Minus 23 for people like me... Joe Public.
2015 there were 33 elk tags in Share program. In 2019 there are 72 tags in the Share program. Plus 29 for the Share program.
Not sure the increase of Share tags are through land owner generosity.
 

Roux Meraux

New Member
Look I get it... Fish and Game think have to do something to raise funds. 5 years ago or so the excess DFG funds (millions) were rolled into the general fund and DFG gets shorted in budget every year. Part of the recovery is the offer Share hunts as a fund raiser. If the elk tags were just land owner tags I would be for it, but obviously DFG takes tags from the public. it screws John Q Public. "Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining- senator" Outlaw Josey Wales.
 

Spanky

Active Member
We need to funnel those F&W funds to the homeless pissing and crapping in the streets of Gavin Newsome's former city!
 

BOWUNTR

Well-Known Member
Most states do something similar. I would focus more on where these funds are going? Is the share program working on helping wildlife and creating more opportunities for everyone else orrrrr.... funding a dysfunctional F&G Department???? Ed F
 

2rocky

Well-Known Member
The SHARE Program is designed to improve public access to private or landlocked public land. Participating landowners will be compensated with monetary payment and liability protection for providing access to or through their land for recreational use and enjoyment of wildlife. SHARE is funded with SHARE Access Permit Application fees.
 

Roux Meraux

New Member
So I wrote to Director Bonham on Saturday and the Game Program Manager, Brad Burkholder, responded Monday morning. He said the Share Program was not a fund raising program and intended to provide access to private lands and to land locked public lands. As he explained the land owners have an agreement with DFG for a set price and that contract price is not tied to the number of applications received. The 11.88 per application includes any program admin fees. Obviously, DFG gets any monies above the contracted land owner fees, but I don't believe this is a fund raising program. DFG site- Share link- they have the drawing stats from last year. I only looked at the bull stats, but based on the draw % success rate there are about 750 applicants for each bull hunt. (Some more/some less). Anterless rates are slightly better.

The program actually has advantages over the General Draw. If a person is so inclined, he/she could apply for all 21 bull tags in the 2019 Share program at $11.88 per. Unlike the General Draw, one chance at $8 13. A person would only be issued one tag, but you could apply 21 times once for each bull hunt. If drawn for multiple hunts, you get choice- buy only one tag.

I have to walk back my original claim. They are not stealing from the public. I guess you could say I should have done the research before posting.
 

upper

Well-Known Member
Wow from the heart admission.Have not anything so sincere since Arrowslinger came out of the closet.Cudo's to the both of you!
 
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