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#1 2rocky

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 07:51 PM

There is a big brewha over the Oregon governor tag shooting a buck that was an orphaned pet in a gated subdivision out of Bend.

I sure don’t wanna shoot a pet but what do you do?

Maybe dart him and saw off the antlers? I’ll bet someone would pay to do that. Maybe let a kid.

I think I’d think hard about the fair chase aspect. Killing a neighborhood icon does not win hinting any fans.
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Posted 06 November 2018 - 08:23 PM

If it was legal, than its legal. Period- IMO.

We are not all created equal.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 09:31 PM

Yup...legal beagle..hell of a buck...popcorn and all..to each their own for sure...good night bullwinkle..I'm sure he lived a blessed life..
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Posted 07 November 2018 - 04:46 AM

I am not even sure I would take my pajamas off. I may do the same in the next few weeks.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 06:47 AM

Most folks don't realize how hard it is to hunt a city buck....



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Posted 07 November 2018 - 12:52 PM

My point is that shooting this one buck probably made some non-hunters into Anti-Hunters.  

 

My point is that legal does NOT equal Fair Chase.

 

MOST non hunters are ok with Fair Chase.  Most non hunters are ok with incident specific culling when done by authorities.  (problem bear in a neighborhood, putting down a deer hit by a car,etc.), Most Non-hunters are ok with eating wild game.  

 

Why do we talk in the public about how we manage wildlife hunt fair chase and eat what we kill and then in the next breath show a picture of a guy next to a dead deer and have someone post a picture of them petting that same deer earlier that summer.  

 

Like this:

 

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Plus the only interaction with "hunters" most of the residents have is Poachers....  

 

 

Unfortunately for Snavely and others who live in Crooked River Ranch, poachers in the area appear to have no problem shooting a buck in residents’ yards.

A poacher actually did just that one night in late September, when Snavely found a dead 5-point buck in his yard. An arrow had gone entirely through the animal, Snavely says.

Evidence indicates that poachers have run rampant in Crooked River Ranch this fall, but Snavely and a group of local residents are committed to stopping the problem. Eight of them have formed a loosely organized poacher-watch group.

Discharge of firearms and arrows was banned in Crooked River Ranch per Jefferson County ordinance about 10 years ago, according to Charles Lindberg, a senior trooper for the Oregon State Police Fish and Wildlife Division based in Madras.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 12:59 PM

What little I read it was Illegal - however, if the deer will come up to me and eat out of my hand I more than likely will not shoot it even in the wild...So if this ever happens in the wild I pray its a doe in heat and she beds down right under my stand and bring in granddaddy of them all...


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 02:40 PM

Rock- I get what you’re saying. I don’t know the legal beagle for PY and BC for fair chase. If the buck has the choice to be or leave anywhere he wants then to me it’s fair chase.

I don’t use emotion to make decisions or care what others think. I am not in the business of appeasing those who don’t hunt in hopes of them liking me or what I do. I am not going to change who I am and if that means that the new majority votes, legislates, or buys it’s way in to stop all hunting then so be it. In reality people don’t change and whether I change or not their opinions and “votes” will be the same.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 03:44 PM

Least everyone forget, deer are wild animals, not efing pets. For the good of that deer it should have been relocated into the wild where its survival instincts would have taken over. I was Turkey hunting in central Cal. And got into and back and forth with a person who said I was hunting his pets. His argument was, he would come out and feed them so, they were his pets. I asked him if he raised them from poults on his property, he said no, he just put out food for them. I told him they were wild turkeys and because he chose to harm them by taking away their fear of man, it was his fault I shot it. I thanked him and left.

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 04:15 PM

THAT... is not a city... I... live in a city... THAT... is most definitely country. And what do you expect to have happen if you live in the country?


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 04:16 PM

Least everyone forget, deer are wild animals, not efing pets. For the good of that deer it should have been relocated into the wild where its survival instincts would have taken over. I was Turkey hunting in central Cal. And got into and back and forth with a person who said I was hunting his pets. His argument was, he would come out and feed them so, they were his pets. I asked him if he raised them from poults on his property, he said no, he just put out food for them. I told him they were wild turkeys and because he chose to harm them by taking away their fear of man, it was his fault I shot it. I thanked him and left.

That person was breaking the law, it's clearly outlined in the CCR.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 05:45 PM

:What does Credence Clearwater Revival got to do with this topic? :)


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 08:33 PM

Not sure about the details of the town buck aspect, but, that buck is a slug.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 10:36 PM

How old you think that buck is? His bases look like they are probably the size of the average dudes elbow!


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Posted 08 November 2018 - 08:40 AM

How old you think that buck is? His bases look like they are probably the size of the average dudes elbow!

Can't see teeth, but he doesn't look old,old.  I will say, I'd like to get the grass blend of the nearby golf course for my food plots.






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