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#1 TheGDog

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:11 PM

My wife showed me a post today that was made by one of the ladies in the Lady Shooters League club Facebook Page.  (Run by nearby FT3 gun range.)  The lady in the post recently received her in-the-mail license renewal, and like most of us, quickly paid and sent it back. Without thinking much about it. 

However... since our EFF'd up state now will be giving Driver's Licenses to non-citizens... you've got to be sure to a License that has a "REAL ID" designation and the Gold California Bear symbol all up in the upper right hand corner of the license in order to be able to purchase a firearm!

And... of course... wouldn't you know it... you're going to have to pay yet another fee to get this "REAL ID" designation. And ya have to bring in some other supporting documentation again, to prove you're a freaking citizen, you know... like my fricken CDL used to do for me just fine thank you very much.

So anyhoo... anybody who's got their License due for renewal soon.... be sure to check into the "REAL ID" BS when it's time to get the new one.

And pass this on to your people so they don't get caught in this annoying situation at an FFL.


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Posted 04 August 2018 - 07:54 AM

Incorrect.

 

As a result, citizens and lawful residents may use non-REAL IDs issued by the DMV when purchasing or transferring firearms. But California firearm dealers must ensure that the provided ID is not an AB 60 license by looking on the back of the license to confirm the AB 60 language is not there.

 

https://www.crpa.org...-issued-ca-dmv/


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Posted 04 August 2018 - 10:36 AM

Bbbut his wife saw it on Facebook!  :smiley-wnk-yellow:


Good lookin' people, they got no spine.

 

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 03:45 PM

The wife got her Real ID last month with her regular CDL renewal.  The Real ID has a Golden Bear image on the front.  Folks need to show up at DMV with specific documents and the Real ID gets issued.  Not touching the specified bases means getting a CDL marked "Federal Restrictions Apply".  My next CDL renewal is next year, so I'll just follow the lead and touch the required bases too.


I'll remember that jab next time you are sailing birds a quarter mile away in all directions with your 150 yard volleys you dogless savage.

 

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 05:30 PM

I'm getting a rash just thinking about having to be in CA next weekend.. I will be smuggling straws across the I10 AG. Check point in Blythe for those interested...hit me up.

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 06:10 PM

I could use some blue elbow straws. God forbid you get caught.

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 07:42 PM

Incorrect.

As a result, citizens and lawful residents may use non-REAL IDs issued by the DMV when purchasing or transferring firearms. But California firearm dealers must ensure that the provided ID is not an AB 60 license by looking on the back of the license to confirm the AB 60 language is not there.


https://www.crpa.org...-issued-ca-dmv/

Was in a local shop today and they were letting a guy use his regular CDL ..... pretty sure that’s getting bounced back

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:41 AM

More in the ongoing saga of the DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Kalifornia)

 

https://www.crpa.org...-ca-dmv-part-2/

 

It appears that the DMV made a "mistake" and put the same AB 60 (law that authorized drivers licenses to illegals) verbiage on EVERY non-Real ID license renewal. This is the little paragraph in the lower right corner of the back side.  So now appears that every legal resident of CA that has not specifically acquired a Real-ID license has the same license as the illegals.  Therefore, unless and until NRA and CRPA get clarification, we DO in fact need a Real-ID license or a passport other “clear evidence of the person’s identity and age” (passport, certified copy of birth certificate, and utility bill, etc) to buy guns and soon, ammunition.

 

This was all just an honest mistake, I'm sure. <sarcasm> 

 

This is the most effed up corrupt and dishonest political entity out there. I won't even refer to it as a state anymore. Its just too screwed up and crooked to be called a state anymore. I'd almost rank the original DPRK ahead of this $##thole. To call it a banana republic is an insult to banana republics everywhere.


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Posted 05 August 2018 - 05:04 PM

Absolute bullsh!t.
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:58 AM

Apparently the non-Real-IDs have some other verbiage up in that upper right-hand corner. She showed me a pic on the post which displayed the two different corners for the two different forms the ID will take.  And the other one said something to the affect of not a valid form of federal ID or some isht like that.  And did not have the Golden Bruin symbol overlaid upon it.  I'll ask her tonite if she can forward me the link and/or the pic.


Edited by TheGDog, 06 August 2018 - 11:58 AM.

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 01:37 PM

The front of a non-Real ID license says "Federal Limits Apply"  This was initially clarified by DOJ to refer to boarding airplanes going into federal buildings etc., (though not required to vote - go figure). It was not supposed to apply to buying guns (and soon ammo) since all that requires is clear evidence of the person’s identity and age. On the back is the AB 60 language saying the license only authorizes the holder to drive a vehicle and is not valid for anything else. That's the issue. On the basis of the license, they can't tell you and me apart from illegals.


"One final paragraph of advice: do not burn yourselves out. Be as I am - a reluctant enthusiast....a part-time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic. Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it's still here. So get out there and hunt and fish and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, climb the mountains, bag the peaks, run the rivers, breathe deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for a while and contemplate the precious stillness, the lovely, mysterious, and awesome space. Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to the body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this much; I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those desk-bound men and women with their hearts in a safe deposit box, and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators. I promise you this; You will outlive the bastards."
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 07:49 AM

socal duckie, I believe it doesn't go into effect until October 2020

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:00 AM

If you have renewed your license recently and did not get the Real-ID one, the AB 60 license you recieved is not currently valid as proof of age or residence and that is the problem. If I understand the CRPA releases correctly, if you have that license and want to buy a gun, you need to bring a passport or certified birth certificate and a current utility bill.

 

The point is, its best to get your documentation in order and get the Real ID when you renew (or re-renew if you already got the AB 60 license) or be prepared to carry alternative documentation.


"One final paragraph of advice: do not burn yourselves out. Be as I am - a reluctant enthusiast....a part-time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic. Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it's still here. So get out there and hunt and fish and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, climb the mountains, bag the peaks, run the rivers, breathe deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for a while and contemplate the precious stillness, the lovely, mysterious, and awesome space. Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to the body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this much; I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those desk-bound men and women with their hearts in a safe deposit box, and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators. I promise you this; You will outlive the bastards."
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 11:29 AM

More liberal BS. I'll say it again, one more BS feel good law at a time and gun ownership and hunting in this socialist state will be a thing of the past.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 02:31 PM

so, lemme git this straight... i need me a real id (or my passport) to get on an airplane, to cross the border, to buy me a gun and some ammo, but i can walk right up to any ol' polling place and claim to be who i am and cast a vote for the ya-hoos making these ridiculous rules/ordinances/laws and i don't need no kind of id for that?  they'll just take my word that i am who i say i am?

 

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