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#1 manny

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 05:30 PM

I'm taking my son out for a Jr hunt in the D-19 area on Saturday.  Last week (the end of the regular season) it looked as thought the rut had started.  I was thinking of getting some deer scent and looking for suggestions.  Do they work in So Cal, do they make any Mule deer doe in heat scents, which one should I get, ect.?

 

Your input will be appreciated.  Just want to give my boy every advantage I can to get him his first buck.

 

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 06:38 PM

Gimmick.  Stick to the fundamentals.  Study maps.  Get a couple miles in before glassing light at the highest point you can find for glassing.  


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:31 PM

Conquest scents - EverCalm.

They harvest it from the bedding area of farm-raised deer.  It's in a speed-stick kind of applicator. I smear some onto the toes of my boots before the hike in.  It's supposed to make them more at ease.

I'll just say this... I'm still fairly new to hunting, but... I have been successful 3 years in a row now at short distances.  2 with rifle, 1 with bow. So yeah... sure... maybe there's some stuff I'm doing right... but I'm betting I ain't that good, so I figure it has helped.

A big, no check-that HUGE part of the success is picking a good location, being extremely in-tune and mindful of the wind... and remaining very still for LONG periods of time.  And remaining in the shadows and having vegetation behind you to break-up your outline.

However, I try really hard to be super aware of my scent-control and every aspect of my gear and the inside of my car and have a better than average nose for odors. I've seen first-hand how deer will run away like the devil himself was chasing them if they smell a dog's scent on something. And I have two smaller dogs so I'm very on top of that aspect within my car. I'll try to clean the upholstery and not like them back in the vehicle during hunting time.

For sure I will say that you need to get a PEET's Boot Dryer. Without the PEET's the inside of my boots always had an amount of stink even after washing them, even with using Dawn Platinum!  But something about the use of that Boot Dryer kills off the bacteria or something. Passes the nose test when you stuff your shnozz deep inside your boots afterward, whereas before you could always smell the left behind odor of the stink. Nobody needs to be fighting against that dead give-away.

Also... get in the habit of adding Baking Soda into your wash of your hunting clothes!!!  It totally makes a difference to my nose, so I figure it has to help somewhat with a deers even better nose, I'd imagine.  

Also I have to believe that a person should hold out as long as I can on eating when in the field.  Watch your dog the next time you take him on a walk. If there is a scent on something they are curious about the first thing they do is wet it by licking it and re-sniff it. Just like what happens all over the inside of your mouth when you eat stuff. I know I've been in places like the supermarket when someone is eating certain foods several aisles over and it stinks like hell and feels like my nose just wants to dive back into my face from the stink (especially when somebody is eating cornnuts, as an example, Yuck!).

Big thing is movement! Teach your boy that if he feels he needs to turn his head to look over a certain direction... that he must do soo uber slowly. It should take like 6 to 7 seconds to rotate his head 90 degrees.

Also I'd recommend watching the BowNinja's videos on YouTube. Very straight-forward, easy to understand, makes sense, advice.

And personally I'd recommend getting your son a mesh neck gaitor. Helps slightly hold-in the scent of your breathes and better yet helps cover most of your face from flying insects. With the mesh gator... and the 3D leafy boonie hat pulled-down over the tops of my ears.... and my glasses... I now can usually forego using the ThermaCell device to shoo away flying insects. Seems like it's when you move that they key-in on you. But as long as I remain fairly still... with my 3D leafy stuff all over. It sure seems like the 3D leafy stuff sorta has this shoo-ing affect on the bugs, from what I can tell.

PS chances are you're too late to implement all this various external help at this point. So for now, just work on being mindful of the wind direction and working with your son at getting better at dealing with the flying insects and remaining still.

Oh... and big thing.. you GOTTA get in there early before the sun comes up! And/or stay until the last bit of light in the PM. Otherwise chances are very high you ain't gon' see doodoo.

Here's hoping you get to make great memories with your boy!


Edited by TheGDog, 13 November 2017 - 10:39 PM.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:10 AM

Good luck Manny hopefully better luck than last year. Last year your boy put his time in I hope it pays off for him this year.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:17 AM

Keep the wind in your face... Ed F

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:23 AM

You are either downwind, or you're not.  You can buy all the products in the world.  But, if you are upwind, the deer will smell you.  All that Scentlock clothing, spray, etc.  is BS.  You can't mask your coffee, Copenhagen, donut breath.  With a rifle hunt, it should be pretty easy to stay downwind considering you can stay out about 300 yards.  Bowhunting, if the wind isn't in your face, you don't really have a chance. The bucks and bulls might not care when they are all rutted up, but the does will bust you every time.  I know, because I always get busted.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:32 AM

Remember you can't get them sitin on the couch.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:13 AM

I've never used it in my life....i just piss into the wind so i know what way to go!



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:43 PM

Once you spent you’ve spent your next three paychecks in Peet’s foot dryers, free range hand tasted peepee, mesh gear for the whole family, and passed the bow ninjas sniff test just slap in some old spice and head outside. Keep the wind in your face get your self a 5 minute online lesson about aspects and thermals so you’ll know what the wind will likely do in the morning and hunt accordingly. There are about a million wild land firefighting videos on YouTube that will teach you about wind patterns,aspects ,and thermals. Good lessons for everyone.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:48 PM

I just walk in the woods and every critter within a mile starts dripping estrus all over the place...


Give me a bow, a topo and two weeks and I guarantee I kill two weeks!

Just like hunting spots posted online, stupidity is searchable forever.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:49 PM

I just walk in the woods and every critter within a mile starts dripping estrus all over the place...

 

 

I don't know D19, but I did grow up hunting whitetails and the reason scents can work there is you have hundreds of deer within a mile of you, out west that is never the case so it is best to do as Paul said.  Get high and let your eyes find deer for you, and have fun!  Hunting with the next generation is the best kinda hunting!


Give me a bow, a topo and two weeks and I guarantee I kill two weeks!

Just like hunting spots posted online, stupidity is searchable forever.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:19 PM

In order to understand the deer...one must become the deer..that being said, I hope you don't drive a diesel..those things ruin alot of hunts..

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:00 PM

Ozonics!!!!

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 04:31 PM

 Keep the wind in your face get your self a 5 minute online lesson about aspects and thermals so you’ll know what the wind will likely do in the morning and hunt accordingly. There are about a million wild land firefighting videos on YouTube that will teach you about wind patterns,aspects ,and thermals. Good lessons for everyone.

If i may chime in , being that i am a brand new hunter, this (wildland FF videos) is exactly the kind of resources I was relying upon when I was out this past weekend. 

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