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#1 Skeet

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:07 PM

Hey all was out scouting for my mountain goat and found out the hard way I suffer from high altitude sickness. Could hardly walk up hill, felt like my jugular was about to exploid when I exerted any energy at all. Scared the heck out of me I've always been able to fight my way through anything but after 4 days decided to head home only so much scouting you can do from the truck.

My question is besides drinking plenty of water and taking asprine has anyone taken any supplements that have helped? Meds from Dr help or? Thank you

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:13 PM

Acclimatize at a lower elevation for a day or two.  It can be dangerous if severe, so best if you have others with you.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:19 PM

Diamox prescription... Ed F

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 05:29 PM

I agree with giving yourself time to acclimate.  Spend the night at 7000 ft. the first night, and then the first day at 10,000 or so do not exert yourself at all.  Then gradually.  What altitude were you at when you started having problems?


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 05:45 PM

Was staying at 11000 going to 12000. I work at 7000 and guess I need to start at 9 or 10 next time

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 05:55 PM

every year it starts hitting lower and lower 

I get it at sea level now :smiley-violin: 



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 06:38 PM

Was staying at 11000 going to 12000. I work at 7000 and guess I need to start at 9 or 10 next time

I would think that working at 7000 would have really helped.  I live at 7300 and every day I drive over a pass at 9000.  That I thought helped me on my Goat hunts.  I killed one goat at close to 13000 in CO.  Scouting at over 12000 in CO for elk last month and that is where I will be hunting end of this month.  I know some people are more susceptible to it.  Try to take it real easy first few days.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 07:14 PM

I was thinking the same thing but funny thing is after working at that elevasion since 02 the last two years I have been noticing slight signs of it. That is what has me baffeled. I guess the older I get my body must be changing in ways I don't understand

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 07:22 PM

Good thing you mention that Paul. I live at the same elevation as you. I just assumed I could shoot right up to the high country here in CO.

Once I start hunting out west I will keep acclimating in mind

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 07:31 PM

Wilderness Athlete has a pretty good one also...


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 07:51 PM

Tums the calcium will help the aerobic, anaerobic, cells,and O2 it's all a bunch of stuff I used to understand right after I got done with paramedic school but now it's just a blur. Anyways it was explained to me once and it made sense so try a cheap pack of tums.
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Posted 03 August 2017 - 08:13 PM

It's probably just age catching up.  I used to be fine above 11,000, now I get winded at 7000.  Getting winded is not the same as altitude sickness, so you might be more specific about your symptoms.  If you are a smoker, hypoxia can easily affect you below 10,000.  Symptoms similar to altitude sickness.



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 10:03 PM

Perhaps you should train on an elliptical or stair-stepper with one of those face-masks which slows-down and limits the amount of oxygen you're able to take in.  Or at least wrap a bandana around your nose and mouth to inhibit air-flow somewhat. Work on timing your breathing during the cardio stuff... such as 4-strides of taking in breath... followed by 4-strides of exhalation... then as the demand increases... try 4 strides in... exhalation in 3 strides out. When it gets really bad try 3in 3 out.  But the timing of breathing is crucial when pushing it aerobically to help prevent that ache in your side.  That would help the situation a bit.  Help get your body prepped for it.  

Other than that... just take supplements which can help your body carry-out and continue on with anaerobic respiration... such as... if I remember right... under-the-tongue ATP tablets... and aminos for energy along with a high buffered potassium supplement to help buffer out the higher amounts of lactic acid you'll be creating since your body will at first be relying more on anaerobic respiration to get it's energy until it acclimates to the thinned-out oxygen levels.  Also I'd imagine your water demand will be higher too to help flush-out the lactic acid and also the higher levels of urea which will be formed from breaking apart proteins for energy.

Oh yeah... and also learn to breath in thru your nose and out threw your mouth... in colder temps it helps pre-heat the in-coming air a little bit so it's less aggravating for your lungs.  Some albuterol inhaler and even some Sudafed will help a little bit too since they will work to open-up your bronchial-tubes and decrease their inflammation. And if allergies are chokin' your bronchial tubes with crud go for some Guaifinesin timed-release tablets (Such an Mucinex). They thin-out the mucosal secretions in the bronchial tubes. Another herb that helps with bronchial tubes is Ma Huang, it works well for that and has been used for over 3000 years, but it's quite a powerful stimulant. It's no joke. You'll need time to learn to assess how much of that stuff your body can handle. I'd avoid it if you take BP Meds though.

Pay attention to the swelling in your hands/fingers. It'll talk to you and let you know when you need to take rests.  Good Luck, and stay stafe.


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Posted 04 August 2017 - 06:02 AM

Skeet...try not to leave the truck bro. It works for me.. often.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 09:39 AM

Skeet...try not to leave the truck bro. It works for me.. often.

 

 

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